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Comment by Ahed on August 19, 2009 at 10:25pm

i believe the definition will be coming from the goal of EMS ''The goal of most emergency medical services is to either provide treatment to those in need of urgent medical care, with the goal of satisfactorily treating the malady, or arranging for timely removal of the patient to the next point of definitive care''

In most places in the world, the EMS is summoned by members of the public (or other emergency services, businesses or authority) via an emergency telephone number which puts them in contact with a control facility, which will then dispatch a suitable resource to deal with the situatio

In some parts of the world, the term EMS also encompasses services developed to move patients from one medical facility to an alternative one.

In some jurisdictions, EMS units may handle technical rescue operations such as extrication, water rescue, and search and rescue.

i hope this will in-light the idea

Ahed

Comment by Dave Leach on August 6, 2009 at 2:24pm

"The EMS Professional is a licensed/certified prehospital medical practitioner...who provides compassionate and competent treatment to all injured / ill patients".

Mary / Jules....I think I read that somewhere in a Brady/Bledsoe book some 10 years ago.........

Be well. Cheers,

Dave

Comment by Mary Hill on August 6, 2009 at 6:06am

Ok, guys listen to Jules,
I have followed this discussion from the beginning, we are simply looking for a definition. Not the educational criteria it takes to get there. We all have our thoughts on if a degree is neccessary but how do we define it to the new incoming generation of EMTs. I liked....The EMS Professional is a licensed/certified prehospital medical practitioner...who provides compassionate and competent treatment to all injured / ill patients.

Just an observation.

Comment by Dave Leach on August 5, 2009 at 2:52pm

Holy crow does it really have to be this complicated...I mean really? ...Really?....A prehospital care provider in his or her heart must have integrity, and balance.......Skip, responsibility and demeanor are part and parcel to personality (you cant teach or regulate that) -Otherwise their fired.

At the end of the day things with-in EMS and the career itself are as simple as any other profession - To gain the upside of the greater good through caring for and providing forth with our communities in the prehospital setting the best emergent and non-emergent care that benefits all involved. To sustain life and sustination within being the protectors of dignity and respect, modesty and privacy.
As death is the final stage of living the goal is to meet that inevitability with calm retention of the premise we all meet that fate, whether the event is traumatic, what have you......

As Healthcare providers resolved it is our intention to meet the needs and wants of our perspective communities in the most cost effective, proficient means available,while presenting the resources necessary to help the sick, disabled and in capable citizen to reach definitive care.

Cheers Dave

Call me, some one needs counsel.

Comment by EMAD EDDINE ELOUETER on July 25, 2009 at 3:37pm

well for me and as my little experience in EMS , to define EMS we must know the total integrity of the job prescription off all Ems staff within the big medical society circle and to give a specified role for the people working as an EMT basic ,intermediate and Paramedic as long as they are a primordial part of this dynasty of saving a human life's,

Comment by Joseph Eriksen on July 24, 2009 at 6:15pm

Hey folks,new to the group. My two cents....
There are professional EMTs and Paramedics some paid and some volunteer. They share the same thing, a love of the work. Thats what makes them strive to be professional. The Profession itself is a different story. For years we coasted along, got better and more intricate, but failed to justify ourselves. We left the door open for the Fire-Rescue models to absorb us. I see it as our dumbing down. Many systems, including mine have fought the good fight, trying to remain autonomous. We are losing. The way to turn it around is through political action on state levels. The Fire Chiefs association has fought hard against two year degree requirements for Medics. It would make it harder and more expensive to put patches on the street. For us it would make better medics and elevate the profession. We in Florida as FAPEP, (Fl Association of Professional EMTs and Paramedics) have looked at Credentialing. It may not seem like a big deal for a medic to have PM after their name but it also lends toward a Profession as opposed to a profession. We have always had the ability to control our own destiny. We lacked the cohesion and underestimated the threats. The IAFF still has a lot of pull and are very organised in their agenda to absorb EMS. As many of you know, the reasons are self preservation and budget justification. Not quality care. We as an industry let it happen and only we can turn it around. I took a lot of years and public education to show we were more than ambulance drivers or litter carriers. The natural progression somewhere got lost. I would like to see state organisations like ours in every state band together along with NAEMT to work towards a plan of action. If we truly envision Paramedicine as a respected field in and of itself. we must have conviction and cohesion.

Comment by Skip Kirkwood on July 21, 2009 at 5:50am

I think we could simplify the discussion if we focused on which "part of speech" we're trying to define and work with.

If we're trying to define the noun "EMS professional" or the EMS profession then we have to do education, body of knowledge, self-regulation, etc.

If we're trying to define the adjective "professionalism" as it relates to EMS, that is easier. It's about standards of conduct, responsibility, demeanor, etc.

The latter can certainly be taught and managed, with a cooperative effort between educators, managers, and medical directors. Agree on a standard that applies across all agencies in an EMS system (school, first response, ambulance) and work at it. Not too hard, but takes time.

Comment by K C Jones on July 20, 2009 at 10:03pm

Now that it is out lets look at the Gap Analysis Template-
http://www.nasemso.org/EMSEducationImplementationPlanning/documents/2009NASEMSOGapAnalysisTemplate.pdf
It may surprise you!! Stay Safe!

Comment by Christopher Miller on July 20, 2009 at 9:49pm

Well we are talking about education and standards, etc. let's take a look at AHA or ARC for CPR. Typically AHA is the leader in EMS field as the accepted CPR, but it is not the only one. But if you look at AHA from one state to another, unless something is rare, the training is the same. Granted CPR is a very narrow example, of course I am speaking of the BLS end of it, cause I believe the ALS side is a bit different.

Comment by Christopher Ebright on July 20, 2009 at 9:11pm

Everyone is going to have their own definition of what constitutes an EMS Professional. All of those ideas and definitions need to be pooled and the best pieces from all of them need to be combined in a way to make one universally- accepted definition. Whether or not it is done by a national body like NAEMT, NAEMSE, etc. or by a consortium of EMS professionals country-wide, it is still going to be a challenge to put a specific definition upon what constitutes our profession as a whole.
I agree that a college degree doesn't make one more profesional than someone else. Acting professional is something inherent to our profession - i.e. treating someone, regardless of age/race/creed, in a respectful and caring manner. All healthcare providers across the spectrum do this as part of their own being. Otherwise, they wouldn't be in public service. But, defining what makes us as a healthcare profession different from the others.....ah, there's the rub

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